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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late on this conversation, but just in response to what Diane is/was saying, I think maybe Nouwen became so mature through his struggle with homosexual thoughts..you know? Maybe those struggles of his are what brought him to understand God&#039;s grace so much more and what it meant to live utterly dependent on His strength, and not his own. I know that you&#039;re recommending Nouwen, but it&#039;s just a food for thought. I think some people with same sex attraction wish they didn&#039;t have it..just like a sexually abused child never wished that upon himself/herself. So while I disagree with homosexuality itself, maybe his sexual attractions...as much as they can be a flaw because they can lead to very bad sin...can also be a strength. Either way, the feelings themselves isn&#039;t an actual flaw right? Don&#039;t know. Food for thought. I have yet to read his works, but think I am going to start reading some. Thanks for the suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late on this conversation, but just in response to what Diane is/was saying, I think maybe Nouwen became so mature through his struggle with homosexual thoughts..you know? Maybe those struggles of his are what brought him to understand God&#8217;s grace so much more and what it meant to live utterly dependent on His strength, and not his own. I know that you&#8217;re recommending Nouwen, but it&#8217;s just a food for thought. I think some people with same sex attraction wish they didn&#8217;t have it..just like a sexually abused child never wished that upon himself/herself. So while I disagree with homosexuality itself, maybe his sexual attractions&#8230;as much as they can be a flaw because they can lead to very bad sin&#8230;can also be a strength. Either way, the feelings themselves isn&#8217;t an actual flaw right? Don&#8217;t know. Food for thought. I have yet to read his works, but think I am going to start reading some. Thanks for the suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, I can&#039;t spell.
Should be interesting.</description>
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Should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34,000 Christian groups and many don&#039;t speak to each other. Isn&#039;t that confusing to the pagans?

The Messianic movement is interting!!

Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34,000 Christian groups and many don&#8217;t speak to each other. Isn&#8217;t that confusing to the pagans?</p>
<p>The Messianic movement is interting!!</p>
<p>Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me suggest HN&#039;s book, The Way of the Heart.  You know Jesus&#039; words, Matt. 13:22&quot;And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.&quot;  This is a crazy, media-marinated world...with enough worries and deceit to choke out our spiritual vitality in a heartbeat.  In a heartfelt attempt to preserve what is precious in my spiritual life, I have been grateful to learn about solitude, prayer, and silence, from Henri Nouwen.  I&#039;ve returned to The Way of the Heart again and again and it is a phenomenal help in running the long marathon of life and maintaining our &quot;First Love&quot; with the Lord Jesus Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me suggest HN&#8217;s book, The Way of the Heart.  You know Jesus&#8217; words, Matt. 13:22&#8243;And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.&#8221;  This is a crazy, media-marinated world&#8230;with enough worries and deceit to choke out our spiritual vitality in a heartbeat.  In a heartfelt attempt to preserve what is precious in my spiritual life, I have been grateful to learn about solitude, prayer, and silence, from Henri Nouwen.  I&#8217;ve returned to The Way of the Heart again and again and it is a phenomenal help in running the long marathon of life and maintaining our &#8220;First Love&#8221; with the Lord Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Stranz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Stranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add that &#039;Can You Drink the Cup?&#039; is the book which affected me the most, and which I most recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add that &#8216;Can You Drink the Cup?&#8217; is the book which affected me the most, and which I most recommend.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Stranz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Stranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for such a thoughtful post on Henri Nouwen.  God led me to discover Nouwen in 1997 during an intense time of study and revelation; at that time I read &#039;A Meditation on Death and Dying,&#039; &#039;Can You Drink the Cup?,&#039; another on the Story of the Prodigal Son and one influenced by his study of the desert fathers (Way of the Heart?)  I came away with from my reading of Nouwen with nothing but the utmost respect for him and his genuine understanding of what God wants from us, as individuals and as members of a community.

I did not read anything else by Nouwen until last summer when I read one of his earliest books (I don&#039;t remember the title) -- and it was a HUGE disappointment.  The book was spiritually shallow and took me greatly aback, since over the years I&#039;ve recommended Nouwen highly to many people. It also didn&#039;t help that I read this book about the time I first learned that Nouwen admitted to having homosexual inclinations (though I don&#039;t believe he ever acted on them because of his vow of celibacy).

It took me awhile, but eventually I realized that this &#039;discovery&#039; mirrored my experience reading Thomas Merton:  writings near the end of Merton&#039;s life are thought-provoking and reflect a mature wisdom, but his first book The Seven Storey Mountain -- written while he was still in his 20&#039;s -- is so facile, egotistical, and immature, it is not worth the waste of paper required to print it. 

For years I was confused and conflicted as to which represented the &#039;real&#039; Merton, until I read that Merton himself disavowed The Seven Storey Mountain later in life, stating publicly that he considered it a personal embarrassment, he wished he had never written it, and he wished people would stop reading it.  What a relief to hear him say that, especially since (young people in particular) DO continue to read it, and I believe it confirms spiritual immaturity instead of indicting it and spurring readers to humble themselves before God.

Anyway.  Despite Henri Nouwen&#039;s personal flaws which may well have hampered him spiritually in life, especially in his early years, his final works are impressive for their humility, their grace, their insight, their compassion -- and I would still recommend to others the first four books I read.

Sincerely,
Diane Stranz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a thoughtful post on Henri Nouwen.  God led me to discover Nouwen in 1997 during an intense time of study and revelation; at that time I read &#8216;A Meditation on Death and Dying,&#8217; &#8216;Can You Drink the Cup?,&#8217; another on the Story of the Prodigal Son and one influenced by his study of the desert fathers (Way of the Heart?)  I came away with from my reading of Nouwen with nothing but the utmost respect for him and his genuine understanding of what God wants from us, as individuals and as members of a community.</p>
<p>I did not read anything else by Nouwen until last summer when I read one of his earliest books (I don&#8217;t remember the title) &#8212; and it was a HUGE disappointment.  The book was spiritually shallow and took me greatly aback, since over the years I&#8217;ve recommended Nouwen highly to many people. It also didn&#8217;t help that I read this book about the time I first learned that Nouwen admitted to having homosexual inclinations (though I don&#8217;t believe he ever acted on them because of his vow of celibacy).</p>
<p>It took me awhile, but eventually I realized that this &#8216;discovery&#8217; mirrored my experience reading Thomas Merton:  writings near the end of Merton&#8217;s life are thought-provoking and reflect a mature wisdom, but his first book The Seven Storey Mountain &#8212; written while he was still in his 20&#8242;s &#8212; is so facile, egotistical, and immature, it is not worth the waste of paper required to print it. </p>
<p>For years I was confused and conflicted as to which represented the &#8216;real&#8217; Merton, until I read that Merton himself disavowed The Seven Storey Mountain later in life, stating publicly that he considered it a personal embarrassment, he wished he had never written it, and he wished people would stop reading it.  What a relief to hear him say that, especially since (young people in particular) DO continue to read it, and I believe it confirms spiritual immaturity instead of indicting it and spurring readers to humble themselves before God.</p>
<p>Anyway.  Despite Henri Nouwen&#8217;s personal flaws which may well have hampered him spiritually in life, especially in his early years, his final works are impressive for their humility, their grace, their insight, their compassion &#8212; and I would still recommend to others the first four books I read.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Diane Stranz</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nouwen book I would recommend is &quot;Adam: God&#039;s Beloved&quot;. This transformed my view of how God sees people with learning difficulties, or the wee children who many of us care for. We so often think that WE know how much or how little these more vulnerable members of our community are capable of understanding (or not!) God and yet the reverse may well be true. &quot;Unless you change and become like a child.....&quot;

Nouwen wrote this book just before he died in 1996. It&#039;s about his friendship with a man in the L&#039;Arche community called Adam.  Although Adam could not speak and was wracked with violent seizures, Nouwen called Adam &quot;my friend, my teacher, and my guide,&quot; and credited Adam with renewing his faith in a particularly dark period of life. 

He describes how Adam showed him the Jesus of the gospels. It is a profound book and immensely moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nouwen book I would recommend is &#8220;Adam: God&#8217;s Beloved&#8221;. This transformed my view of how God sees people with learning difficulties, or the wee children who many of us care for. We so often think that WE know how much or how little these more vulnerable members of our community are capable of understanding (or not!) God and yet the reverse may well be true. &#8220;Unless you change and become like a child&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Nouwen wrote this book just before he died in 1996. It&#8217;s about his friendship with a man in the L&#8217;Arche community called Adam.  Although Adam could not speak and was wracked with violent seizures, Nouwen called Adam &#8220;my friend, my teacher, and my guide,&#8221; and credited Adam with renewing his faith in a particularly dark period of life. </p>
<p>He describes how Adam showed him the Jesus of the gospels. It is a profound book and immensely moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Delony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Delony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing A Carr. Blessings on the journey...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing A Carr. Blessings on the journey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced spiritual growth, during times of great loss and change in my life, via the Nouwen books mentioned by Len. My introduction was during divorce when I studied, in a church small group, Nouwen&#039;s Lifesigns. It created a hunger for more. 

Closely followed a first cancer diagnosis. The entire journey created a desire to help others grow as I had; I was inspired to work with support groups and patient education programs. Besides the books Len mentioned, I utilized Seeds of Hope, With Open Hands, The Way of the Heart and Our Greatest Gift. 

May I suggest: Nouwen may not have been as successful a speaker as an inspirational writer. I wish I could have had the opportunity to hear for myself. 

I was not aware of the availability of more wisdom from him via his proteges. I will give Spiritual Directions a go. I have utilized so much growth through the works of Richard Foster and will look forward to comparing the two</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced spiritual growth, during times of great loss and change in my life, via the Nouwen books mentioned by Len. My introduction was during divorce when I studied, in a church small group, Nouwen&#8217;s Lifesigns. It created a hunger for more. </p>
<p>Closely followed a first cancer diagnosis. The entire journey created a desire to help others grow as I had; I was inspired to work with support groups and patient education programs. Besides the books Len mentioned, I utilized Seeds of Hope, With Open Hands, The Way of the Heart and Our Greatest Gift. </p>
<p>May I suggest: Nouwen may not have been as successful a speaker as an inspirational writer. I wish I could have had the opportunity to hear for myself. </p>
<p>I was not aware of the availability of more wisdom from him via his proteges. I will give Spiritual Directions a go. I have utilized so much growth through the works of Richard Foster and will look forward to comparing the two</p>
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		<title>By: Len Delony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Delony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I discovered Nouwen while I was in seminary and the title of his book &quot;Wounded Healer&quot; became a powerful metaphor for me (I had struggled with cancer while a child.) I found several of his books helpful both personally and for ministry to others (&quot;Reaching Out&quot; was the first that really connected for me and my ministry. Later, his book &quot;Here and Now&quot; provided profound, brief reflections on God&#039;s Presence that I often read to patients at a hospital, especially in the psychiatric and addictions treatment area.  &quot;Our Greatest Gift: A Meditation on Dying and Caring&quot; has been helpful across generations for many of our family and friends.  And I owe my discovery of Taize music to Henri Nouwen when he spontaneously taught 500 medical staff and chaplains in a lecture hall at Johns Hopkins, eyes glazing over after lunch, to sing Ubi Caritas.

Nouwen knew much about spiritual renewal at a very deep level.  I&#039;m inspired by learning that you are finding his work inspiring.  Thanks for sharing...

(If you are still at Willowbrook UMC and see Tim Bruster, tell him I said hello. My prayers are with y&#039;all.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered Nouwen while I was in seminary and the title of his book &#8220;Wounded Healer&#8221; became a powerful metaphor for me (I had struggled with cancer while a child.) I found several of his books helpful both personally and for ministry to others (&#8220;Reaching Out&#8221; was the first that really connected for me and my ministry. Later, his book &#8220;Here and Now&#8221; provided profound, brief reflections on God&#8217;s Presence that I often read to patients at a hospital, especially in the psychiatric and addictions treatment area.  &#8220;Our Greatest Gift: A Meditation on Dying and Caring&#8221; has been helpful across generations for many of our family and friends.  And I owe my discovery of Taize music to Henri Nouwen when he spontaneously taught 500 medical staff and chaplains in a lecture hall at Johns Hopkins, eyes glazing over after lunch, to sing Ubi Caritas.</p>
<p>Nouwen knew much about spiritual renewal at a very deep level.  I&#8217;m inspired by learning that you are finding his work inspiring.  Thanks for sharing&#8230;</p>
<p>(If you are still at Willowbrook UMC and see Tim Bruster, tell him I said hello. My prayers are with y&#8217;all.  <img src='http://www.georgebarna.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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